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	<link>http://itsm.glennodonnell.com</link>
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		<title>Comment on R.I.P. FCAPS by Steve Atwell</title>
		<link>http://itsm.glennodonnell.com/2007/10/14/rip-fcaps/#comment-4939</link>
		<author>Steve Atwell</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 10:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's a little known ITIL publication (although quite good, it needs updating) called ICT Infrastructure Management (see http://www.tso.co.uk/ict/index.htm) , which specifically refers to FCAPS and addresses the lifecycle of a service from a technology/infra point of view.
Whilst ITIL is process-centric, it doesn't really prescribe the sorts of things you need to do in network management - ITIL comes from IT, eTOM and FCAPS come from networks. There's an uneasy place in the middle where they meet....(occasionally). 
So in my view you apply ITIL for the process in principle (except where it's a bit weak, like customer management for example) and then use the proper disciplines of FCAPS and eTOM where you've got networks to manage, and ICTIM where you've got IT systems to manage. What's the difference? It's getting harder to tell!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a little known ITIL publication (although quite good, it needs updating) called ICT Infrastructure Management (see <a href="http://www.tso.co.uk/ict/index.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.tso.co.uk/ict/index.htm</a>) , which specifically refers to FCAPS and addresses the lifecycle of a service from a technology/infra point of view.<br />
Whilst ITIL is process-centric, it doesn&#8217;t really prescribe the sorts of things you need to do in network management - ITIL comes from IT, eTOM and FCAPS come from networks. There&#8217;s an uneasy place in the middle where they meet&#8230;.(occasionally).<br />
So in my view you apply ITIL for the process in principle (except where it&#8217;s a bit weak, like customer management for example) and then use the proper disciplines of FCAPS and eTOM where you&#8217;ve got networks to manage, and ICTIM where you&#8217;ve got IT systems to manage. What&#8217;s the difference? It&#8217;s getting harder to tell!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Glenn Exits EMC by yea</title>
		<link>http://itsm.glennodonnell.com/2008/01/16/glenn-exits-emc/#comment-3806</link>
		<author>yea</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://itsm.glennodonnell.com/2008/01/16/glenn-exits-emc/#comment-3806</guid>
		<description>Sorry to read that you’re leaving Glenn..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to read that you’re leaving Glenn..</p>
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		<title>Comment on Forrester Report: Knocking The NOC: Enter The New Operations Center by Douglas W. Stevenson</title>
		<link>http://itsm.glennodonnell.com/2009/06/18/forrester-report-knocking-the-noc-enter-the-new-operations-center/#comment-3407</link>
		<author>Douglas W. Stevenson</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://itsm.glennodonnell.com/2009/06/18/forrester-report-knocking-the-noc-enter-the-new-operations-center/#comment-3407</guid>
		<description>I actually got to read it...

C3I, while it establishes a chain of command and deals with span of control, you really didn't lay out the principles behind C3I. It isn't the top down structure that you propose that makes C3I work, its the fact that the decision making is done at the lowest level possible and that the information needed for effective C3I is based upon Situational Awareness.

Guidance?  We need to be empowered.

The NOC actually began earlier than the 90s.  Networking was not a new innovation and it was not so immature as you tout.  SNA networks abounded and they are VERY STRUCTURED.  Telco networks in like manner. AT&#38;T Datakit... Remember.

It wasn't always called the NOC. In fact I've seen a multitude of names.  In AOL, there were 64 NOCs distributed around the world. Boeing's Banana was an excellent Operations Center. Again, you're hung up on a name.

Where is the Service Desk?

I think your model is askew here.  In the most effective Operations organizations, "Help Desks" that just route calls need to go away. Have folks that are customer facing that cannot solve problems is a HUGE waste of money. Having Generalists that only know ITIL is making the problem much worse.  I want folks that can think on their feet, go through incident resolution and work arounds VERY QUICKLY, and have great customer skills.

When Incidents become problems or an incident takes too long, then escalate. Drive as much knowledge and problem solving at the first interface with the customer, as you can.  Triage and SME and even Engineering Teams need to make problems into incidents by documenting the process and knowledge around restoration.

I don't want IT Operational automation tools experts on the desk! DOH!  I want them EMPOWERIN G Level 2, 3 and 4 personnel to share knowledge and process down to the lowest level necessary to make the decisions.

Dude. In your 3 levels of incident escalation.What are you talking about?  In ITIL, an Incident is a problem that has a known corrective action or workaround. A Problem is an incident that requires further diagnosis / investigation to correct the issue.

I don't get the "Breadth" of technical skill.  As technical folks mature, they get exposed to alot more problem sets, situations, and technologies.  Like me - I can admin a box, perform a vulnerability test, analyze sniffer traces, or diagnose BGP issues. (Not to mention I might know a wee bit about enterprise management applications.)

Dude, I think your paper is so far off the mark.... I think it is misleading, uninformed, and frankly dangerous.  In the wrong hands, this mentality could literally destroy an IT organization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually got to read it&#8230;</p>
<p>C3I, while it establishes a chain of command and deals with span of control, you really didn&#8217;t lay out the principles behind C3I. It isn&#8217;t the top down structure that you propose that makes C3I work, its the fact that the decision making is done at the lowest level possible and that the information needed for effective C3I is based upon Situational Awareness.</p>
<p>Guidance?  We need to be empowered.</p>
<p>The NOC actually began earlier than the 90s.  Networking was not a new innovation and it was not so immature as you tout.  SNA networks abounded and they are VERY STRUCTURED.  Telco networks in like manner. AT&amp;T Datakit&#8230; Remember.</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t always called the NOC. In fact I&#8217;ve seen a multitude of names.  In AOL, there were 64 NOCs distributed around the world. Boeing&#8217;s Banana was an excellent Operations Center. Again, you&#8217;re hung up on a name.</p>
<p>Where is the Service Desk?</p>
<p>I think your model is askew here.  In the most effective Operations organizations, &#8220;Help Desks&#8221; that just route calls need to go away. Have folks that are customer facing that cannot solve problems is a HUGE waste of money. Having Generalists that only know ITIL is making the problem much worse.  I want folks that can think on their feet, go through incident resolution and work arounds VERY QUICKLY, and have great customer skills.</p>
<p>When Incidents become problems or an incident takes too long, then escalate. Drive as much knowledge and problem solving at the first interface with the customer, as you can.  Triage and SME and even Engineering Teams need to make problems into incidents by documenting the process and knowledge around restoration.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want IT Operational automation tools experts on the desk! DOH!  I want them EMPOWERIN G Level 2, 3 and 4 personnel to share knowledge and process down to the lowest level necessary to make the decisions.</p>
<p>Dude. In your 3 levels of incident escalation.What are you talking about?  In ITIL, an Incident is a problem that has a known corrective action or workaround. A Problem is an incident that requires further diagnosis / investigation to correct the issue.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t get the &#8220;Breadth&#8221; of technical skill.  As technical folks mature, they get exposed to alot more problem sets, situations, and technologies.  Like me - I can admin a box, perform a vulnerability test, analyze sniffer traces, or diagnose BGP issues. (Not to mention I might know a wee bit about enterprise management applications.)</p>
<p>Dude, I think your paper is so far off the mark&#8230;. I think it is misleading, uninformed, and frankly dangerous.  In the wrong hands, this mentality could literally destroy an IT organization.</p>
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		<title>Comment on R.I.P. FCAPS by Douglas W. Stevenson</title>
		<link>http://itsm.glennodonnell.com/2007/10/14/rip-fcaps/#comment-3406</link>
		<author>Douglas W. Stevenson</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://itsm.glennodonnell.com/2007/10/14/rip-fcaps/#comment-3406</guid>
		<description>FCAPS dead? Hmmm... I actually read the specs.  And when you begin to understand the form and function of Management Functional Domains and Management Functional Areas, you see that maybe FCAPS isn't quite as dead as you say it is.

ITIL is about process and how to manage IT. FCAPS is a different look and a sifferent take - I feel that FCAPS and ITIL are complimentary.  Just like if you say FCAPS is dead because of ITIL, what about eTOM?

There's a dozen or so different "standards" but in the real world, you adapt, adopt, and abolish. 

ITIL new? hehehehehe!!! I've been doing workflow based ENMS Architectures since 1993...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FCAPS dead? Hmmm&#8230; I actually read the specs.  And when you begin to understand the form and function of Management Functional Domains and Management Functional Areas, you see that maybe FCAPS isn&#8217;t quite as dead as you say it is.</p>
<p>ITIL is about process and how to manage IT. FCAPS is a different look and a sifferent take - I feel that FCAPS and ITIL are complimentary.  Just like if you say FCAPS is dead because of ITIL, what about eTOM?</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a dozen or so different &#8220;standards&#8221; but in the real world, you adapt, adopt, and abolish. </p>
<p>ITIL new? hehehehehe!!! I&#8217;ve been doing workflow based ENMS Architectures since 1993&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Don’t buy management tools for exoneration by new star</title>
		<link>http://itsm.glennodonnell.com/2008/09/19/don%e2%80%99t-buy-management-tools-for-exoneration/#comment-1832</link>
		<author>new star</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 07:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://itsm.glennodonnell.com/2008/09/19/don%e2%80%99t-buy-management-tools-for-exoneration/#comment-1832</guid>
		<description>New Star provides sales, process consulting, configuration and training for the ITSM suite of applications from BMC Remedy, HP Service Desk Service-now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New Star provides sales, process consulting, configuration and training for the ITSM suite of applications from BMC Remedy, HP Service Desk Service-now.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The CMDB Book is Done and Coming Soon! by new star</title>
		<link>http://itsm.glennodonnell.com/2008/10/29/the-cmdb-book-is-done-and-coming-soon/#comment-1831</link>
		<author>new star</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 07:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://itsm.glennodonnell.com/2008/10/29/the-cmdb-book-is-done-and-coming-soon/#comment-1831</guid>
		<description>New Star provides sales, process consulting, configuration and training for the ITSM suite of applications from BMC Remedy, HP Service Desk Service-now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New Star provides sales, process consulting, configuration and training for the ITSM suite of applications from BMC Remedy, HP Service Desk Service-now.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Glenn Exits EMC by Glenn O'Donnell</title>
		<link>http://itsm.glennodonnell.com/2008/01/16/glenn-exits-emc/#comment-590</link>
		<author>Glenn O'Donnell</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 20:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://itsm.glennodonnell.com/2008/01/16/glenn-exits-emc/#comment-590</guid>
		<description>Well, it wasn't that EMC explicitly prevented me from telling the truth. Simply put, a marketing guy at ANY company should be more reserved in his expression of opinions. I'm just not that kind of guy! I need to tell it like it is, so I returned to a place where such candor is not just tolerated, it's what I do for a living! I'm now an analyst at Forrester Research! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it wasn&#8217;t that EMC explicitly prevented me from telling the truth. Simply put, a marketing guy at ANY company should be more reserved in his expression of opinions. I&#8217;m just not that kind of guy! I need to tell it like it is, so I returned to a place where such candor is not just tolerated, it&#8217;s what I do for a living! I&#8217;m now an analyst at Forrester Research! <img src='http://itsm.glennodonnell.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>Comment on Glenn Exits EMC by Truth is an illusion</title>
		<link>http://itsm.glennodonnell.com/2008/01/16/glenn-exits-emc/#comment-564</link>
		<author>Truth is an illusion</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://itsm.glennodonnell.com/2008/01/16/glenn-exits-emc/#comment-564</guid>
		<description>Specifically, what truths were you unable to speak while you were employed by EMC?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Specifically, what truths were you unable to speak while you were employed by EMC?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Welcome Voyence by itsuport</title>
		<link>http://itsm.glennodonnell.com/2007/11/07/welcome-voyence/#comment-259</link>
		<author>itsuport</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://itsm.glennodonnell.com/2007/11/07/welcome-voyence/#comment-259</guid>
		<description>Thanks for that valuable information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that valuable information.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Glenn Exits EMC by itsuport</title>
		<link>http://itsm.glennodonnell.com/2008/01/16/glenn-exits-emc/#comment-258</link>
		<author>itsuport</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://itsm.glennodonnell.com/2008/01/16/glenn-exits-emc/#comment-258</guid>
		<description>Thanks for that valuable information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that valuable information.</p>
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